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25 January 2010 @ 05:52 pm
You Make A Great Point  
Herbert Gans makes a compelling argument in his view of where those in poverty help in a bigger way than those who have actual finances. His argument clearly states that without those in poverty, people with jobs such as penology, criminology, social work, and public health would not have jobs in the first place. Those who tend to those who are poor would not have jobs if there was no poor, simple as that. Quite logical if you ask me. They also, even when it's all they can gain as sad as it may be, buy the foods the rich do not want or can easily throw away because of how spoiled rotten they are. Regardless of poor food they can obtain, that's all they can get and they can endure it because they have no other choice in the matter. They also get secondhand clothes, and deteriorating automobiles and buildings. They also provide incomes for doctors, lawyers, teachers, and others who are too old, poorly trained or incompetent to attract more affluent clients. And as we all know that the harder you have to work for something, the more honest you are towards earning something rather than stealing it or simply gaining it without the hard work and effort added onto it. The poor have it far worse than we do as middle class, and yet it is the middle class that complain and argue over matters that is really none of their business when they have no control over it. People nowadays don't realize how easy they have it compared to those in poverty and yet they still complain.

My view is, if we get more out of poverty and into the workforce, they will contribute to the economy. If we did not spend as consumers or took some initiative into the economy, it's going to fail. No system that is supposedly going to bring us out of it will work if the people don't participate in the economy. By buying and selling within the economy, you are actually helping it. You are putting what you can into the pot and the more that goes in, the more that is going to come out. You can't just simply think that someone else can pull you out of a rut or rely on a system that is most likely flawed, you have to take matters into your own hands. So, paying taxes whether with food, retail, or monthly fees, you are actually doing the economy a favor. Those who conserve the most, are doing more harm than good and yet they are the ones who are complaining the most about the problem when it's really them who is causing it. Get the picture?

It's a balance. We need a balance. We need to not spend all of what we make but we also need to spend in order to make things better than they are. The more you spend regardless of how expensive it is, the price will go down because more of it is being bought. It's the matter of Supply and Demand. When the supply goes up, the Demand goes down. When the supply goes down, the demand goes up. Like with gas. When prices goes up due to rarity, the demand for it goes down and people don't want it. When the prices go down due to obsessive quantity, the demand for it goes up because people want it. The cheaper it is, the more of it bought because there is more of it. That is why when you try finding something that is super rare, it's costly compared to the shit out there that is seen every where. Get the picture? Good, now stop complaining and help out. Take matters into your own hands and just stuff it for gosh sakes.


Feel free to correct me on anything or please give your own opinion of what you might think. It's good to question things but please respect the view and don't demean it simply because you feel I am wrong verses you being right, that's not how it works.
 
 
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rinkori on January 26th, 2010 10:41 pm (UTC)
if we get more out of poverty and into the workforce, they will contribute to the economy

Many who are below the poverty line* do work but simply struggle to make ends meet. The fact is that in America you can work as hard as you can for long hours and not be able to pay for basic life needs, because the demand for cheap labor at all costs supersedes concerns about work conditions, livable wages, etc.

A good book on the American working poor is Nickle and Dimed by Barbara Ehrenreich, which follows the middle-class author's experiment with trying to live on minimum wage jobs in various states. The Working Poor by David Shipler is more fact-based and is recommended by people who study poverty, but I haven't gotten far enough in it to form a more general opinion on it.


*the poverty line in the US has remained unchanged for decades--it is extremely low and does not take into account regional cost of living. So many who are not technically "in poverty" are still desperately poor.
techno_childtechno_child on January 27th, 2010 01:16 am (UTC)
Thank you for letting me know that. It's good to be informed or have other insight.